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She's in both endings for the rabbits (and maybe one more?), but I forget the numbers.


About Eirin's "immortality", doesn't Kaguya implies in Final A that is her power to manipulate eternity that keeps Eirin alive? Also, Forbidden Arcanum "Hourai Elixir" is not the only shared Spell Card, if you consider PCB's Shikigami "Chen" and Shikigami "Ran".

--Nietz 05:35, 14 November 2007 (PST)

there is no idea YET on eirin's immmortality... but there is a lot of assumption that eirin has also drank the hourai elixir

and regarding eirin last spell... shikigami is using THEM, not a teamwork spell card

--MizunoYukino

I believe that she strongly implies that she didn't in CiLR, but I agree that we'd better wait to see more of Bougetsushou before answering that.
And about the shared spellcards, it really depends on your definition. Hourai Elixir is described in-game as being only Eirin's. But that and the Shikigami ones are the only spellcards that feature more than one character. --Nietz 12:06, 4 January 2008 (PST)
I'm probably getting it wrong, but doesn't Yuyuko try to give Eirin tea brewed with a deadly poison in one of the Ghost Team's endings? (It's not clear if Eirin actually drinks it, I guess ...) —Kimiko 02:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, if the Inaba comic is supposed to be canon, Eirin shouldn't have been able to get ill if she drank the hourai elixir. However, Kaguya said that purity (of the moon or her spell) prevents vases from being damaged and everything stays the same. So in total purity, everyone would be immortal.AoA 13:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, having replayed the Ghost Team's scenario, Eirin says that it's because of her skill with medicine etc. that the poison didn't affect her, my bad ... —Kimiko 17:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
You should know ZUN isn't the composer but drafts the orinal scheme. The composer is Toshihira ARATA. So it would be common understanding that Arata's working is much up to official, but that it is fanfic: ZUN allows him to compose good manga as Arata likes, so it can make many funny discrepancies. --Masuo64 09:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, before I start, I will admit that I haven't read CiLR yet, but I have read the Inaba 4komas and seen both of the Ghost Teams endings in IN. I thought of an easy compromise that fits in with the canon, and doesn't contradict the endings or the Inaba story. Mokou says that the first taste of the Hourai Elixir causes you to stop aging, the second to resist disease/illness, and the third to become truly immortal. So, and again, just my thoughts: Eirin only had one taste of the Hourai Elixir. That way, she ceases to age, but she can still get sick, and she could still be killed. Again, just a thought, but it does seem to fit all the evidence I've seen, and it does make sense. --KageTsuwamono 9:48 EST, Nov. 12 2011.
That is a good theory. Alanomega 03:13, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Where does "Eirin, Eirin, HELP ME EIRIN!" come from?

This line appeared on the anon board "2ch" first. An Yagokoroite made Tasukete E-rin, which meaned "help me, E-rin!" This lyric became popular. And the Cool & Creat, or it's member Beat Mario, made the song Help me, ERINNNNNN!! at the CD Touhou Strike borrowing the line "えーりん!えーりん!助けてえーりん!". In a strict sense, 2ch was where the line first appeared. But considering about the number of Touhou fan, there are a lot of people now who find it at the song "Help me..." In fact, the writing at 2ch is nowadays only worth as what had the line first. --Masuo64 09:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Where did the Yagakoro character come from?

You mean, you don't understand why "yagokoro" is translated into "infinite mind"? In ancient Japan, eight is very important number, & it means "numerous", which is led straight to "infinite", or "whole". And the character "意" is related with "mind", e.g. "意図" (deliberation) "意志" (will) "意識" (consciousness). Then one possible translation is "infinite mind".
Actually, I think he's trying to ask where the joke character "Yagokoro" came from (he's that weird guy who does the leekspin attack in the IOSYS flash "Gets to the diseased part and melts quickly ~ Lunatic Undonge!"). From my knowledge, he originated as a poorly done ASCII job of Eirin or something; in a way, he's kind of like a Yukkuri. I may be wrong, however. --ArseneLupin3 20:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
What I find amusing is that you speak of Yagokoro as if it has a gender (male?) yet it seems quite genderless, and if anything, should be female since it was originally intended to be Eirin, no?
Well, now, not much gender you can apply to a poorly arranged bunch of text, eh? I just refer to Yagokoro as male because the voice he had in the aforementioned flash was, although high-pitched and fast, was male (I only really remember the character from that flash). However, as the character isn't official or anything even close to that, there's no real answer to our predicament. --ArseneLupin3 04:51, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, Dr. Yagokoro (ヤゴコロ先生, Yagokoro Sensei)? I don't know who made this cute character, but it is certain that Dr. Yagokoro is an arrange of "Tsumari". On 2005.01.01, a thread was made on VIP of 2ch: "My Big Sis's Bathtime live thread" (姉のお風呂実況スレ, Ane no Ofuro Jikkyou Sure). 01 of the thread uploaded low-quality photos, so an angry person uploaded the photo of his/her sister's notebook of school. In her notebook, a few simple cute character appears. (Some Japanese people somehow tend to draw pictures for deeper comprehension.)"Tsumari" is one of them, saying "i.e." (つまり, tsumari). And now, Dr. Yagokoro is far more popular than Tsumari. Anyway, what I want to say is that Dr.Yagokoro is derived from Tsumari & Dr. Yagokoro is seem to be a kidding appearance of real, sophisticated YAGOKORO Eirin.


About the article, it states that Eirin is human.. but she isn't she a lunarian? did the translator had an error or is Eirin a human that went to the moon? Or is the Lunarians counted a type of human?Wrathie 08:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

It could be because "lunarian" (月) includes the word "human" (人) and because PMiSS records her as human. There has been no place that the relationship between lunarian and human, I suppose, so we can't conclude that lunarian isn't human — of course, also can't conclude that lunarian is human. --Masuo64 09:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
ah, i see but then can we count her as a human too?? i mean since PMiSS says she is a human she is a human... but i think it's not state in Kaguya's profile as well? Maybe it's just Eirin that is human?Wrathie 12:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but keep in mind that PMiSS is from Akyu's point of view - she doesn't know everything about everyone. For example, this line from Eirin's article: "Rumor has it that she is a human with a deep connection to the Lunar Capital. " We know that Eirin is originally from the moon, but Akyu writes that it's only a rumour that she has a connection to the moon. Anyway, wasn't the founder of the lunar capital a human as well? Anathe 14:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

"Eirin's Last Spell (Forbidden Arcanum "Hourai Elixir") is the only spell card that is shared by two characters (the other character being Kaguya Houraisan) in the whole Touhou series." What about the shikigami cards of Ran and Yukari? ---


Recently it says on her wiki page that Mokou can't visit the Netherworld because she is immortal (can I have a source on this). This might mean that Yuyuko and Youmu's IN good endng may have actually quashed the Eirin is immortal idea.Universalperson 13:09, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Can't die due to age (Eirin, supposedly) isn't the same as can't die NO MATTER WHAT (Mokou). The problem's with the English word "immortal" and how it's ambivalently used nowadays. TheTrueBlue 18:46, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
You misunderstood, I meant to say that if Mokou can't enter the Netherworld, then ZUN may have, in a roundabout way, answered the question as to whether Eirin drank the Hourai Elixir as well as Kaguya and Mokou.-Universalperson 20:04, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
The Hourai Elixir isn't the only means to immortality. Although if what you've proposed is inferable and sensible then add it to the article if you wish. TheTrueBlue 22:22, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


"Some vague hints seem to suggest that she even predates modern humanity, which emerged as a species approximately 100,000 to 200,000 years ago." - Can I please have a source on this? I didn't see any sort of reference to a source of any kind in the article. Apologies if I just missed it. Battousai9439 01:22, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

If no one's going to add sources or contest it, I'm going to take the liberty of removing references to her possibly being over 100,000 years old. Battousai9439 20:21, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

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